economists are expecting a 4.2% drop and a report likely impacted by superstorm sandy. fed chairman ben bernanke is talking about the economic recovery today, we hope so. he'll have our lunch time address the economic club of new york and that starts at 12:45 eastern. >> harold ford jr., reasonable and good friend, joe watkins, white house aide to former president george h.w. bush. >> you didn't say he's reasonable. >> joe is right, but harold has potential. >> joe and i have known each other for almost 20 years, go back to university of pennsylvania, but joe and i have been friends for a long time. >> you'with you we'll talk fisc cliff in a second but you want to do a postmortem? >> you can't win without women, and can't win without latinos, you can't win without young people. you can't win on a single issue, and i just think there were a host of challenges. for me, the whole time, the sense that i had was that it was obama's race to lose, that he had the advantage. anybody look at the electoral college would have to say there were seven or eight easy ways for the pres